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		<title>House Design</title>
		<link>http://vanderbrew.com/blog/2008/04/27/house-design/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you ever decide to design and build a house, think very carefully before deciding not to have a crawlspace or an attic and with minimal covered space between floors. Electrical and plumbing take a lot longer when you have to continually drill holes in studs.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you ever decide to design and build a house, think very carefully before deciding not to have a crawlspace or an attic and with minimal covered space between floors. Electrical and plumbing take a lot longer when you have to continually drill holes in studs.</p>
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		<title>House Blog</title>
		<link>http://vanderbrew.com/blog/2007/03/29/house-blog/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 05:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just setup a new House Blog where we&#8217;ll be tracking progress and info specifically about the house.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just setup a new <a href="http://vanderbrew.com/house/">House Blog</a> where we&#8217;ll be tracking progress and info specifically about the house.</p>
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		<title>Dropping Trees on the Property</title>
		<link>http://vanderbrew.com/blog/2007/03/23/dropping-trees-on-the-property/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you ever get the opportunity to see a professional lumberjack at work, don&#8217;t pass it up.
We have quite a few trees on our property. Some of them were growing in the place we&#8217;d designated for our house, others blocking the southern exposure we needed for good passive solar and others were where we want [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you ever get the opportunity to see a professional lumberjack at work, don&#8217;t pass it up.</p>
<p>We have quite a few trees on our property. Some of them were growing in the place we&#8217;d designated for our house, others blocking the southern exposure we needed for good passive solar and others were where we want our garden to be. I bought a chainsaw back in October and I&#8217;ve been putting it to good use, getting used to how it works and taking down trees as I could. I figured I&#8217;d get the hang of it on the small ones (4-10 inch diameter trunks) then work my way up to the big ones (30-36 inch diameter trunks)&#8230;</p>
<p>My parents were up in the area back in February and my Dad and I were out on the property working on dropping some trees and getting it more cleaned up. We decided to take on one that was bigger than I&#8217;d done before - probably 14&#8243; diameter trunk. Well, getting it down involved:</p>
<ol>
<li>chainsaw</li>
<li>a plastic wedge when the chainsaw got stuck</li>
<li>a hammer and stake when the wedge got stuck</li>
<li>a bow saw to finish the cut and free the chainsaw once we got the wedge out</li>
</ol>
<p>And then, the tree didn&#8217;t fall all the way to the ground - it hung up in another tree.</p>
<p>See, when you&#8217;re standing on the ground, looking up at those trees, they don&#8217;t look that big. I mean, yeah, they look big, but you look up at it, you look at the space around you, and you think <i>Yeah&#8230;this will fit, here, no problem</i>. And then, it&#8217;s ever so much bigger than you thought&#8230;</p>
<p>After that episode, I figured that if I took the time necessary to work myself up to the big trees, we wouldn&#8217;t be building for another 5 years or so and it was time to get professional help. We know a contractor in the area and he&#8217;s got a lot contacts so I drove up on Friday to meet with some people about dropping the trees.</p>
<p>They were really great guys and agreed to drop them for a really good price. We&#8217;re talking more than 2 dozen trees most of them over 18&#8243; diameter trunks and some over 100ft tall. They&#8217;d put them on the ground and limb (cut the branches off) and buck them (cut the trunk into chunks) and then I&#8217;d just have to clean up the slash ( limbs and trunks that they cut off - no small amount of work). Fortunately, they said that they could do it on Saturday so I got to watch and learn some tricks to felling.</p>
<p><a href='http://vanderbrew.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc00013.jpg' title='dsc00013.jpg'><img src='http://vanderbrew.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc00013.thumbnail.jpg' alt='dsc00013.jpg' /></a> Here we are, just taking a break and discussing the work.</p>
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<p><a href='http://vanderbrew.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc00007.jpg' title='dsc00007.jpg'><img src='http://vanderbrew.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc00007.thumbnail.jpg' alt='dsc00007.jpg' /></a> They&#8217;ve already made the front cut and now are working on the back cut. Notice the diagonal on the very front bottom of (what will be) the stump? That&#8217;s to help it fall better and get a clean break.</p>
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<p><a href='http://vanderbrew.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc00008.jpg' title='dsc00008.jpg'><img src='http://vanderbrew.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc00008.thumbnail.jpg' alt='dsc00008.jpg' /></a> Now they&#8217;re pounding in wedges to help control the tree&#8217;s fall and make it go where they want it to.</p>
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<p><a href='http://vanderbrew.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc00010.jpg' title='dsc00010.jpg'><img src='http://vanderbrew.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc00010.thumbnail.jpg' alt='dsc00010.jpg' /></a> And over it goes.</p>
<p><br style="clear: left;" /></p>
<p><a href='http://vanderbrew.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc00014.jpg' title='dsc00014.jpg'><img src='http://vanderbrew.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc00014.thumbnail.jpg' alt='dsc00014.jpg' /></a> It was truly remarkable how they did it. All these trees perfectly lined up with each other on the ground. They didn&#8217;t get moved this way after they were down, this is where they fell.</p>
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<p><a href='http://vanderbrew.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc00022.jpg' title='dsc00022.jpg'><img src='http://vanderbrew.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dsc00022.thumbnail.jpg' alt='dsc00022.jpg' /></a> Once a tree is down, they walk up the tree with the saw to limb it. They&#8217;ve got this neat trick where the let the tip of the saw rest on trunk and just &#8220;walk&#8221; it up so that they don&#8217;t have to carry the saw.</p>
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<p>Oh, and to drop all these trees and do all this work was about 3 hours. It would have taken me a whole lot longer.</p>
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		<title>House Update: Professional Help</title>
		<link>http://vanderbrew.com/blog/2007/02/05/house-update-professional-help/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 06:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Our original plan was to do all the design work ourselves, draw up the plans and submit them to the county to get our building permit.
Then we decided that maybe we could pay someone to do the structural drawings, but that I could do the sectionals and electrical drawings.
Now, given the paucity of time around [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our original plan was to do all the design work ourselves, draw up the plans and submit them to the county to get our building permit.</p>
<p>Then we decided that maybe we could pay someone to do the structural drawings, but that I could do the sectionals and electrical drawings.</p>
<p>Now, given the paucity of time around here right now and our desire to start building this year, we&#8217;ve decided to work with professionals to get this all done.</p>
<p>I was up in Nevada City again over the weekend and I met with the fine folks at <a href="http://siphomesystems.com">SHS</a>. We went over all the plans that Amber and I have spent months developing and thinking through and they were very positive about the designs and how they&#8217;d work with SIPs. After talking with Amber, we signed a contract with them to take care of almost all of the drawings and work that is required to submit to the county including Title 24 Energy Calculations, engineering analysis, plans and sectionals plus a few sessions with their designer to get his input on our plans. The only other thing that will need to be done is the shop drawing, but that can&#8217;t happen till everything else is done.</p>
<p>I spoke with their designer Mel on the phone for about 40 minutes today, going over our plans and providing additional information on how we&#8217;re envisioning everything. I get the sense that the SIP people are impressed by how thought through and well-formed our plans are and I must say that it&#8217;s a very gratifying feeling. All along I&#8217;ve felt like we were doing a good job designing it, thinking through all the structural elements and how they&#8217;ll go together as well as the plumbing bits and how they can be centralized to make life easier.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that Mel will have input on how to improve things and I&#8217;m really looking forward to what his input is.</p>
<p>While I was up there, I also put stakes in the ground at the approximate corners of the house and started trying to figure out what additional trees I want to take down to open up space for a garden and create good southern exposure for our passive solar hopes. All in all, everything is progressing well and there&#8217;s a good chance that we&#8217;ll have a permit and can begin building in May. Very exciting prospects.</p>
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		<title>Now! With Elevations!</title>
		<link>http://vanderbrew.com/blog/2007/01/15/now-with-elevations/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Added Elevations and notes to the plans online.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Added <a href="http://house.vanderpol.net/elevations/index.html">Elevations</a> and notes to the plans online.</p>
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		<title>House Plan Update</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been going back and forth on house stuff. We&#8217;ve got a floor plan we&#8217;re pretty happy with and I&#8217;ve been working on beams and joist arrangements and it just felt too complicated. I needed lots of beams to get everything working and then needed some tie beams to create a support for the ridge [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been going back and forth on house stuff. We&#8217;ve got a floor plan we&#8217;re pretty happy with and I&#8217;ve been working on beams and joist arrangements and it just felt too complicated. I needed lots of beams to get everything working and then needed some tie beams to create a support for the ridge pole&#8230;all in all, a bit of a mess.</p>
<p>Then, this week, I kindah sat back and looked at it and wondered why exactly I&#8217;d done it this way. Why exactly do we need a parallel support system on each floor, neither of which line up with the ridge pole? It all goes back to our original plan of building a timber frame structure and trying to keep that manageable. Since we&#8217;re not doing that anymore (we&#8217;re just going to have timber frame accents), I tweaked the frame a bit to make life easier.</p>
<p>We only had minor changes to the floor plan (rooms just changed dimensions a bit) and I decided that the laundry chute had to go (just too much work to keep it in), but it opened up the downstairs even more and I think it will help us better delineate the spaces.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve created a new <a href="http://house.vanderpol.net/">site</a> to host our plans and ideas. The plans are interactive after a sort to highlight the areas, our intended use and other notable facts.</p>
<p>Check it out and let me know what you think.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be posting notes on the blog whenever there&#8217;s anything notable added/updated.</p>
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		<title>Revised Timber Schedule (Redux)</title>
		<link>http://vanderbrew.com/blog/2006/11/14/revised-timber-schedule-redux/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I mentioned in my last post, iteration is good&#8230;
Posts
 • 8&#8243;x8&#8243;x8&#8242;2&#8243; (2)
 • 8&#8243;x8&#8243;x22&#8242; (1) - rises from floor to roof
First Floor Beams
 • 8&#8243;x10&#8243;x19&#8242; (1) - spans kitchen and dining space
 • 8&#8243;x10&#8243;x10&#8242; (1) - spans hearth room to stairs
 • 8&#8243;x10&#8243;x15&#8242;4&#8243; (1) - spans space after entryway
 • 4&#8243;x10&#8243;x14&#8242;4&#8243; (1) - parallel [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I mentioned in my last post, iteration is good&#8230;</p>
<p><b>Posts</b><br />
 • 8&#8243;x8&#8243;x8&#8242;2&#8243; (2)<br />
 • 8&#8243;x8&#8243;x22&#8242; (1) - rises from floor to roof</p>
<p><b>First Floor Beams</b><br />
 • 8&#8243;x10&#8243;x19&#8242; (1) - spans kitchen and dining space<br />
 • 8&#8243;x10&#8243;x10&#8242; (1) - spans hearth room to stairs<br />
 • 8&#8243;x10&#8243;x15&#8242;4&#8243; (1) - spans space after entryway<br />
 • 4&#8243;x10&#8243;x14&#8242;4&#8243; (1) - parallel to above and supports upstairs walkway</p>
<p><b>Second Floor Joists</b><br />
 • 4&#8243;x8&#8243;x10&#8242;2&#8243; (6)<br />
 • 4&#8243;x8&#8243;x11&#8242; (7)<br />
 • 4&#8243;x8&#8243;x7&#8242; (1)<br />
 • 4&#8243;x8&#8243;x3&#8242; (3)<br />
 • 4&#8243;x10&#8243;x10&#8242;6&#8243; (3)<br />
 • 4&#8243;x10&#8243;x11&#8242;4&#8243; (1)<br />
 • 4&#8243;x10&#8243;x7&#8242;2&#8243; (1)<br />
 • 2&#8243;x10&#8243;x11&#8242;4&#8243; (9)<br />
 • 2&#8243;x10&#8243;x15&#8242; (7)</p>
<p><b>Perlins</b><br />
 • 8&#8243;x10&#8243;x15&#8242; (2)<br />
 • 8&#8243;x10&#8243;x11&#8242; (1)</p>
<p>The schedule above assumes a cantilevered roof with no ridge pole and, if my initial math is correct, we can do the big lumber with common structural wood, not select structural.</p>
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		<title>The Iterative Design Process</title>
		<link>http://vanderbrew.com/blog/2006/11/14/the-iterative-design-process/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve been working on our house plans for several weeks now. I think that we&#8217;re slowly getting closer to the final plan, but it&#8217;s interesting seeing how it changes. Every time I talk to someone involved in the design/construction industry or read more about building materials and techniques, I get more information and it influences [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been working on our house plans for several weeks now. I think that we&#8217;re slowly getting closer to the final plan, but it&#8217;s interesting seeing how it changes. Every time I talk to someone involved in the design/construction industry or read more about building materials and techniques, I get more information and it influences how things are planned. The longer I look at the plans, I see little things that won&#8217;t work or have &#8220;aha!&#8221; moments where I figure out how to actually do it. Sometimes, everything looks good, then I go a level deeper and work on drawing the next detail (like a joist plan) and I realize that there&#8217;s a minor issue that needs working out (like how posts, beams and joists will all come together).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m feeling very good about this process. I think that we&#8217;re definitely going in the right direction. It reminds me of a quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.&#8221; <cite>-<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_de_Saint-Exupéry">Antoine de Saint-Exupéry</a></cite></p></blockquote>
<p>Not that I think we&#8217;re really going to achieve perfection, but we&#8217;re definitely getting better. We&#8217;re definitely working on simplifying our structural implementation:</p>
<ul>
<li>the original plan called for 20 posts on the first floor alone - the current one calls for 3 total (using interior walls as load bearing and longer beams in places)</li>
<li>instead of putting in a finished floor downstairs, we&#8217;re just going to stain the slab</li>
<li>by dropping a post in the kitchen and using a longer beam, we don&#8217;t have the same constraints on table and island position</li>
</ul>
<p>We&#8217;re still keeping the same design goals (open floor plan, space for a family, simplified construction) but I think we&#8217;re making it better through an iterative process.</p>
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		<title>Yurt Yurt Yurt Yurt</title>
		<link>http://vanderbrew.com/blog/2006/11/02/yurt-yurt-yurt-yurt/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 05:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, one of my Uncles is forever telling us that we should get a Yurt and live in the Yurt while we build our house. A part of me thinks that he just likes saying the word (c&#8217;mon admit it - it is a fun word to say) and I&#8217;ve generally been just discarding it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, one of my Uncles is forever telling us that we should get a Yurt and live in the Yurt while we build our house. A part of me thinks that he just likes saying the word (c&#8217;mon admit it - it is a fun word to say) and I&#8217;ve generally been just discarding it out of hand. Now that we&#8217;re getting closer to the point where we actually need some sort of temporary shelter while we build our house, I&#8217;m beginning to wonder if maybe he&#8217;s right&#8230;</p>
<p>We&#8217;d been planning on buying a (hopefully used) trailer, living in it for whatever time we need to and then selling it. There&#8217;s a few downsides to this:</p>
<ol>
<li>The trailers we&#8217;ve heard about are fairly expensive - granted we haven&#8217;t exhaustively researched it</li>
<li>The primary purpose of a trailer is to provide living space that can be easily moved from one place to another - we just need a shelter to sit in one place for a while</li>
<li>Trailers tend to be small - 2 adults, 2 children and 4 cats - you do the math</li>
</ol>
<p>We&#8217;ve priced Yurts a little online and we can get a brand new 24&#8242; diameter one for less than $8000 (<a href="http://www.yurts.com/products/default.aspx">Pacific Yurts Inc</a>). That&#8217;s 450 square feet of living space plus, we can definitely re-purpose it for something else on the property if we decide to keep it. Yes, it&#8217;s still not all that big, but you&#8217;d need a 15&#8242; x 30&#8242; trailer to get to 450 sf and that just feels huge.</p>
<p>So, we&#8217;re still not sure what we&#8217;ll do but we&#8217;re definitely giving the yurt idea a close look and don&#8217;t anyone be too surprised if we end up in a round temporary shelter while we build our own &#8220;forever home&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Revised Timber Schedule</title>
		<link>http://vanderbrew.com/blog/2006/11/02/revised-timber-schedule/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The previous schedule was a reduction from our original planning but it still required a whole lot of timber. I&#8217;ve been thinking more about it and I think I can get it down even more by using the interior walls as load-bearing walls, supporting beams with the SIP walls, closing in some ceilings so I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The previous schedule was a reduction from our original planning but it still required a whole lot of timber. I&#8217;ve been thinking more about it and I think I can get it down even more by using the interior walls as load-bearing walls, supporting beams with the SIP walls, closing in some ceilings so I can use smaller joists closer together or engineered joists, and doing a cantilevered roof over perlins (purlons?).</p>
<p>First Floor Posts<br />
 * 8&#8243; x 8&#8243; x 7&#8242;6&#8243; (6)</p>
<p>First Floor Beams<br />
 * 8&#8243; x 10&#8243; x 11&#8242; (1)<br />
 * 8&#8243; x 10&#8243; x 14&#8242; (2)<br />
 * 8&#8243; x 10&#8243; x 9&#8242; (1)<br />
 * 8&#8243; x 10&#8243; x 10&#8242; (1)</p>
<p>Second Floor Joists<br />
 * 4&#8243; x 8&#8243; x 11&#8242; (13)<br />
 * 4&#8243; x 8&#8243; x 7&#8242; (2)<br />
 * 4&#8243; x 8&#8243; x 10&#8242; (13)</p>
<p>Second Floor Posts<br />
 * 8&#8243; x 8&#8243; x 11&#8242;10&#8243; (1)</p>
<p>Perlins<br />
 * 8&#8243; x 10&#8243; x 14&#8242; (2)<br />
 * 8&#8243; x 10&#8243; x 10&#8242; (1)<br />
 * 8&#8243; x 10&#8243; x 9&#8242; (1)<br />
 * 8&#8243; x 10&#8243; x 6&#8242; (1)</p>
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